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I hate the current experience of creating and managing SSL certs with all my soul. Enough to put people off using encryption for life – Glenn Jones on twitter
@glennjones YES!! I wish that security advocates would realise that the problem isn’t lack of will; the problem is good ol’ fashioned pain. – Jeremy Keith on twitter

@adactio It’s a classic definition of a UX issue, a process that helps me fail at every point and leaves you feeling stupid and disempowered

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In reply to this conservation:
I hate the current experience of creating and managing SSL certs with all my soul. Enough to put people off using encryption for life – Glenn Jones on twitter
@glennjones this should make things interesting https://letsencrypt.org @letsencrypt – Steven Livingstone on twitter

@weblivz I so hope @letsencrypt and the next generation certificate authorities fix this problem

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I hate the current experience of creating and managing SSL certs with all my soul. Enough to put people off using encryption for life

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@glennjones this should make things interesting https://letsencrypt.org @letsencrypt – Steven Livingstone on twitter
@glennjones YES!! I wish that security advocates would realise that the problem isn’t lack of will; the problem is good ol’ fashioned pain. – Jeremy Keith on twitter
@adactio It’s a classic definition of a UX issue, a process that helps me fail at every point and leaves you feeling stupid and disempowered – Glenn Jones on twitter
@weblivz I so hope @letsencrypt and the next generation certificate authorities fix this problem – Glenn Jones on twitter
In reply to this conservation:
Prototyped a Microformats panel for @FirefoxDevTools today. pic.twitter.com/Ba6CMyLgB9 – dietrich ayala on twitter

@dietrich nice, hoping to sees more ideas like this, as https://github.com/glennjones/microformat-shiv/tree/dev lands : )

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@glennjones I'm ready to migrate once we have the internal API landed! – dietrich ayala on twitter

Performance testing microformats parser as it walks through the DOM. Never realised how fast Safari is, shame its #thenewIE : )

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Taking a look at the profile and performance areas of the browsers, liking Firefox's performance tab, anyone known of a good post about it?

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Cannot make in for hacking day of @indiewebcamp brighton. Hope it goes well, would love to see a video of demos at the end of the day!

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@glennjones @indiewebcamp Aw, shame you can’t make it. We’ll definitely be live-streaming the demos. – Jeremy Keith on twitter

Heading off to @indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton

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@glennjones @indiewebcamp sad to be missing it (at a wedding!) - have fun all #IndieWebCamp – Al Power on twitter

Now thinking I should have gone along to @madgex courses product launch https://twitter.com/brightonfood/status/618798808814755840…

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@glennjones @madgex @Jeremysrest you've missed a treat! – Brighton Food Fest on twitter
In reply to this conservation:
@glennjones that's a tough one indeed. What else could IE do not to cause that issue? /cc @adrianba – Tobie Langel on twitter
Find it a little sad some of the browser APIs are introduced in such an incomplete state the only way to use them is in try/catch blocks – Glenn Jones on twitter
@glennjones are these implementation issues or spec ones? – Tobie Langel on twitter
@tobie @glennjones I don't think there is though. – Ade Bateman on twitter
@adrianba I don't know. Would not shipping a partial implementation help? @glennjones – Tobie Langel on twitter
@tobie @glennjones We shipped a complete implementation of what was in the File API spec at the time (which only defined static members). – Ade Bateman on twitter
@tobie @glennjones IE10+ only supported the static methods on URL so there is no constructor. At the time what else could it do but throw? – Ade Bateman on twitter
@tobie @adrianba I don't known the history, but it does look like the URL object should not have been extended in this way, not a IE issue! – Glenn Jones on twitter
@glennjones @tobie It's complicated because I think things were proceeding in parallel. I actually don't think there is a problem here. – Ade Bateman on twitter
@adrianba I'm not blaming IE, btw. We just don't have a good story for these issues. @glennjones – Tobie Langel on twitter
@tobie just looking at URL and URLUtils the constructor of URL takes 2 arguments to resolve absolute URL, but the early IE version blows up – Glenn Jones on twitter
@adrianba agreed. Still, that makes it painful for devs. There must be a better way. @glennjones – Tobie Langel on twitter
@adrianba sounds like the @urlstandard should have taken that in account then. @glennjones – Tobie Langel on twitter

@tobie @adrianba @w3ctag its an issue with API design, developer expectations and documentation. Wrote post: http://bit.ly/1RkmWqP

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@glennjones BTW, I expect IE11 to be around for a long time, but not IE10. – Ade Bateman on twitter
@glennjones Not wonderful, but you might be able to test window.URL.prototype.constructor.length or some such. @tobie @adrianba @w3ctag – Robin Berjon on twitter
@robinberjon I'm sure you meant window.URL.prototype.constructor.prototype.constructor.length. #bettersafethansorry @glennjones @adrianba – Tobie Langel on twitter

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